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Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored-W4A16

by Mike Chambers mikechambers84/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored-W4A16

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored-W4A16 is an open-weight model for image and text to text from Mike Chambers, released under Apache License 2.0. It has 180B parameters and a 262,144-token context. At 16-bit it needs about 432 GB of GPU memory, which fits on 2x MI325X from $4.00 an hour; at 4-bit, 108 GB on 1x MI300X from $1.85, at the lowest prices in the SAVRN Index.

This is a quantized build of Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored (BF16). Only the routed MoE experts are quantized; every other tensor is kept exactly as in the BF16 source. The model card below this section is the original BF16 card.

Parameters180B
Context262,144
Weights186.4 GB
Licenseapache-2.0
AccessOpen weights
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What it takes to serve Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored-W4A16 (180B parameters): the memory its weights need at each precision, and the cheapest way to rent enough data-center GPUs to hold them.

PrecisionWeightsMemory neededCheapest setupPer hourAlso fits
16-bit 360.0 GB 432.0 GB 2x MI325X (256 GB)
Vultr
$4.00 2x MI355X $5.18 · 3x MI300X $5.55
8-bit 180.0 GB 216.0 GB 1x MI325X (256 GB)
Vultr
$2.00 1x MI355X $2.59 · 2x MI300X $3.70
4-bit 90.0 GB 108.0 GB 1x MI300X (192 GB)
Vultr
$1.85 1x MI325X $2.00 · 1x MI355X $2.59

Memory is the weights at that precision plus 20% for the runtime and a short context; a long context needs more. Prices are the lowest on-demand hourly rates in the SAVRN Index, read Oct 22, 2026.

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored-W4A16 on every accelerator the SAVRN Index prices, at every precision

Model Card

By Mike Chambers, published under apache-2.0, revision 4a178dc32ef2.

This is a quantized build of Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored (BF16). Only the routed MoE experts are quantized; every other tensor is kept exactly as in the BF16 source. The model card below this section is the original BF16 card. Total ~174 GiB (the BF16 source is ~336 GB). Format. compressed-tensors pack-quantized, the layout llm-compressor writes: per expert projection, weightpacked (int32, eight 4-bit values each), weightscale (BF16, one per 32 consecutive input-channel weights) and weightshape. quantizationconfig in config.json targets re:.mlp\.experts\.. and ignores re:.mtp., re:.visual. and lmhead. Method. Data-free round-to-nearest, no calibration data (no GPTQ / AWQ). Each weight is…

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Quantization of this checkpoint (W4A16 routed experts)

This is a quantized build of Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored (BF16). Only the routed MoE experts are quantized; every other tensor is kept exactly as in the BF16 source. The model card below this section is the original BF16 card.

Tensors Stored as Size
Routed experts: model.language_model.layers.{0..47}.mlp.experts.{0..511}.{gate,up,down}_proj (48 layers × 512 experts × 3 = 73,728 matrices) INT4, symmetric, group size 32, BF16 scales (W4A16) 63.3 GiB
PLE n-gram embedding table and projections (layers.1.ple.*) BF16 (unchanged) 95.4 GiB
MTP drafter (mtp.*, including its 512 experts) BF16 (unchanged) 4.9 GiB
Gated DeltaNet linear attention (linear_attn.*, 36 layers) BF16 (unchanged) 3.9 GiB
Hyper-connections (*_hyper_connection.*, hyper_connection_mixer.*) BF16 (unchanged) 1.2 GiB
Token embeddings (embed_tokens) and lm_head (untied) BF16 (unchanged) 2 × 1.2 GiB
QSA sparse attention (self_attn.*, 12 layers, including the indexer) BF16 (unchanged) 1.2 GiB
Vision tower (visual.*) BF16 (unchanged) 0.8 GiB
Shared experts (mlp.shared_expert.*) BF16 (unchanged) 0.4 GiB
MoE routers (mlp.gate) BF16 (unchanged) 0.1 GiB

Total ~174 GiB (the BF16 source is ~336 GB).

Format. compressed-tensors pack-quantized, the layout llm-compressor writes: per expert projection, weight_packed (int32, eight 4-bit values each), weight_scale (BF16, one per 32 consecutive input-channel weights) and weight_shape. quantization_config in config.json targets re:.*mlp\.experts\..* and ignores re:.*mtp.*, re:.*visual.* and lm_head.

Method. Data-free round-to-nearest, no calibration data (no GPTQ / AWQ). Each weight is q × scale with q in [-8, 7]. For every group of 32 weights the scale is chosen like llm-compressor's MSE observer: the group's abs-max is shrunk by 0-19 % in 1 % steps and the scale with the smallest Σ|error|^2.4 is kept (stopping after 5 steps without improvement).

Activations and KV cache. Activations stay 16-bit (weight-only quantization); the checkpoint defines no KV-cache quantization.


Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored

The full-precision BF16 abliterated (refusal-removed) build of Qwen's Qwen3.8-Flash-Next — the source for fine-tuning & quantization

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The full-precision BF16 abliterated (refusal-removed) build of Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next — a ~180B Mixture-of-Experts (125B params / ~6B active), hybrid-attention, native vision-language model with flexible thinking, tool-calling, and an MTP head. These are the source weights from which the quantized releases are derived, and the recommended base for further fine-tuning / post-training and quantization — the full vision tower and MTP head are preserved.

Derived releases:  •  Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored (BF16 source)  •  Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored-FP8 (block-FP8, mirrors official)  •  Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored-MLX (4 / 6 / 8-bit, Apple Silicon).


Disclaimer — read before use

This model has had its safety alignment substantially removed via abliteration (orthogonalizing the refusal direction out of the residual stream). As a direct consequence:

  • It will comply with harmful, unethical, offensive, or illegal requests that the original Qwen3.8-Flash-Next would refuse. It has no meaningful built-in guardrails.
  • It is released strictly for legitimate research — interpretability, AI-safety and refusal-mechanism study, red-teaming, robustness evaluation, and controlled experiments.
  • You assume full responsibility and liability for how you use it and for everything it generates. Do not deploy it to end users or in production without adding your own safety, moderation, and abuse-prevention layers.
  • Use must comply with the Apache 2.0 License inherited from the base model, and all laws and regulations that apply to you.
  • The authors and uploaders accept no liability for any misuse or harm. Its outputs do not reflect the views of the uploaders or of Qwen / Alibaba.

By downloading or using this model you acknowledge and accept the above.


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Model details

Base model Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next
Architecture Qwen4ExpForConditionalGeneration (qwen4_exp, Qwen4 preview) — 48 layers, hidden 2560, hybrid attention (36 Gated-DeltaNet linear + 12 full-attention, interval 4), 512 fused experts, top-10 + shared expert, 51B-param PLE n-gram embedding, Hyper-Connections residual, native vision + video tower, and an MTP speculative-decoding head
Modification Abliteration (refusal-direction removal) on the BF16 weights — no quantization
Format safetensors, BF16, 131 shards (336 GB, 1658 tensors)
Preserved Full vision + video tower (333 visual.*) and MTP head (31 mtp.*)
Context 262,144 tokens
Recommended for Fine-tuning / post-training (SFT · DPO · RL), re-quantization, interpretability & red-team research

Abliteration

Refusal-direction removal following Arditi et al. (2024), Refusal in Language Models Is Mediated by a Single Direction. A single refusal direction r (k = 1) is estimated from the block-input residual stream (the 2560-d Hyper-Connections GR-Read output, where the refusal direction is linearly separable — the widened 4-branch output_hidden_states smears it) as the massive-activation-masked mean-difference of harmful − harmless activations, selected at layer 24 by a full 9-layer quality sweep (harmful 0.00 / KL 0.085). r is then orthogonalized out of every residual-writing matrix — W' = W − r(rᵀW) — computed in float32:

Component matrices edited
self_attn.o_proj (12 full-attention layers + MTP) 13
linear_attn.out_proj (36 GDN linear-attention layers) 36
mlp.experts.down_proj (fused 3D, all 512 experts × 49 layers) 49
mlp.shared_expert.down_proj 49
ple.value_proj + embed_tokens (row space) 2
Total residual-writer tensors 149

Preserved (never touched): the full vision + video tower (333 visual.* tensors), the MoE router (mlp.gate), the fused experts.gate_up_proj reader, all Hyper-Connection mixers, the QSA sparse-attention indexer, the n-gram embedding table, mtp.fc_*, norms, and lm_head. The MTP head's residual writers are abliterated consistently so speculative decoding keeps working. Max residual leakage after the edit: 0.0755 (float32 projection → bf16 storage).

This is a surgical weight edit — it changes ~0 general capability (see Evaluation) while collapsing refusal behaviour.


Fine-tuning & post-training

This BF16 checkpoint is the recommended base for post-training — full precision, whole VL tower + MTP head, a drop-in for Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next in the transformers / Qwen4ExpForConditionalGeneration stack (needs transformers 5.16+).

  • SFT / DPO / RL work as on the base model (full-FT or LoRA/QLoRA).
  • Re-quantization: quantize from these weights to FP8 / MLX / etc. (this is exactly how the derived releases were produced).
  • Note: abliteration is a weight edit, not data-level unlearning. Fine-tuning on refusal-heavy / safety data can partially re-introduce refusals; neutral / task data preserves the uncensored behaviour.

Intended use

  • Research into refusal mechanisms, alignment, and interpretability.
  • Red-teaming and safety / robustness evaluation in controlled environments.
  • A full-precision base for further fine-tuning, post-training, and quantization.

Evaluation

Measured on these exact weights served with vLLM (day-0 qwen4_exp image), against the official Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next served identically with the same scripts and settings. Full BF16. Refusal is judged by a rule-based opening-phrase classifier (caveat = answered but wrapped in a disclaimer) — indicative, not an LLM-judge / publication-grade number. Thinking is off unless stated.

Safety — harmful-prompt refusal, thinking OFF (lower = more uncensored)

Benchmark n Base This model Caveat (this)
AdvBench 100 100.0% 2.0% 53.0%
JailbreakBench (harmful) 100 94.0% 0.0% 52.0%
StrongREJECT 150 99.3% 1.3% 62.0%
HarmBench (standard) 150 100.0% 1.3% 50.7%
MaliciousInstruct 100 98.0% 0.0% 55.0%
SimpleSafetyTests 50 64.0% 2.0% 68.0%
ForbiddenQuestions 150 75.3% 3.3% 57.3%
Custom probes (zh/en) 11 63.6% 0.0% 36.4%

Safety — harmful-prompt refusal, thinking ON (enable_thinking=true)

Judged on the final answer (text after </think>; responses truncated before a final answer are excluded):

thinking-ON refusal Base This model
harmful prompts ~100% ~0%

Over-refusal — benign prompts wrongly refused (lower = better)

Benchmark n Base (no-think / think) This model (no-think / think)
XSTest-safe 250 9.6% / 0.4% 1.2% / 0.4%

Capability retention — vs the official base (same scripts, same settings)

Benchmark n Base This model Δ
MMLU (0-shot letter) 300 90.0% 87.7% -2.3
MMLU-Pro (CoT) 400 77.8% 76.2% -1.5
GSM8K (CoT) 150 92.0% 93.3% +1.3
CMMLU (0-shot, Chinese) 500 81.8% 81.6% -0.2

Verified workingon this build: tool-calling, vision/OCR 6/6, reasoning. Thevision + video tower is preserved byte-for-byte (333 visual.* tensors in BF16), so it remains a full vision-language model — a drop-in for the base.


Usage — self-host with vLLM (OpenAI-compatible)

qwen4_exp needs the day-0 vLLM image and transformers 5.16+.

docker run -d --name flashnext --gpus all --ipc host -p 8000:8000 \
  -v /path/to/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored:/model \
  vllm/vllm-openai:qwen38-flash-next-x86_64-cu130 \
  --model /model --served-model-name Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored \
  --tensor-parallel-size 8 --trust-remote-code --max-model-len 262144 \
  --enable-expert-parallel --enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser qwen3_coder

--enable-expert-parallel is required for the FP8 build (MoE intermediate 640 ÷ TP is not divisible by the FP8 block 128 without it); it is harmless for BF16. Tool calls use the Qwen3-Coder XML format (--tool-call-parser qwen3_coder). Toggle reasoning per request with chat_template_kwargs={"enable_thinking": true|false}; pass image_url content parts for vision.

Bias, risks, and limitations

  • Safety guardrails removed — the model will produce harmful, biased, or offensive content on request (see the disclaimer).
  • It inherits any biases and limitations of the base Qwen3.8-Flash-Next.
  • The reported refusal metric is a rule-based heuristic; evaluate rigorously for your own use case.

License

Apache 2.0, inherited from the base model Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next. Abliteration does not change the underlying license obligations.

Configuration

Architecture
Qwen4ExpForConditionalGeneration
Context length (tokens)
262,144
Layers
48
Hidden size
2,560
Attention heads
24
Key/value heads
2
Head dimension
256
Vocabulary size
248,320
Experts
512
Experts active per token
10
Model type
qwen4_exp
Quantization
compressed-tensors

Identity and Version

Repository
mikechambers84/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored-W4A16
Publisher
Mike Chambers
Task
Image and text to text
Modality
Image and text
Library
transformers
Parameters
180B parameters
Languages
en, zh
Revision
4a178dc32ef238f4376b8bdec8385527a0501ca2
First published
2026-10-12
Last updated
2026-10-12

Files and Weights

144 files, 186.4 GB in total. The weights are 131 files totalling 186.4 GB in safetensors.

Weights131 files · 186.4 GB
Configuration5 files · 25.0 MB
Tokenizer4 files · 22.9 MB
Documentation2 files · 18.3 KB
Other1 file · 9.0 KB
Repository1 file · 1.6 KB
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License and Download

License
apache-2.0
Access
Open weights, no gate
Download size
186.4 GB
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Released by Mike Chambers through its official repository on Hugging Face. Read the license.

Built From

Memory Requirements

PrecisionWeights in memory
As published186.4 GB
16-bit360.0 GB
8-bit180.0 GB
4-bit90.0 GB

Weights only, from the published parameter count; the key-value cache and runtime add to this.

Questions About Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored-W4A16

How much GPU memory does Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored-W4A16 need?

About 432 GB at 16-bit and 108 GB at 4-bit: the weights (180B parameters) plus a working margin. A long context needs more.

What is the cheapest GPU to run Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored-W4A16 on?

At 16-bit, 2x MI325X from $4.00 an hour; at 4-bit, 1x MI300X from $1.85 an hour, at the lowest on-demand prices the SAVRN Index lists.

Can I use Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored-W4A16 commercially?

Yes. Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored-W4A16 is released under Apache License 2.0. The Apache License 2.0 is a permissive open-source license. It permits commercial use, modification and redistribution. It requires keeping the license and copyright notices and any NOTICE file, stating significant changes, and it includes an express patent grant from contributors.

What is Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored-W4A16's context length?

262,144 tokens, from the maximum position embeddings in its published configuration.

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